Re: Neil & Morality

Kenton A. Hoover (shibumi@cisco.com)
Mon, 06 Oct 1997 20:04:50 -0700

A number of characters in Le Carre books comment on this problem. Its not
that they are convinced they are right that causes the problem, as that being
right lets them fall into the trap of "the end justifies the means". "The Spy
Who Came In From The Cold" comes to mind as the best example of this (and also
about how you might not succeed in losing your humanity after all).

If you like, the story is now how evil "government" is. Its how people who
serve the government can do evil things in the name of a "higher" goal. And
such behavior isn't confined to people in government (though their behavior
may be more agregious because of their positions).

> I agree with Tim on what he said, but also on another level.
>
> In a very real sense, SB demonstrates government at its most dangerous.=20
> Burnside believes that **HE** has a grasp on the real world situation and
> that his bosses are out of touch with reality, either due to their
> ineptness or to their political greed. Convinced that he is right (both
> factually and morally), Burnside then goes on to violate any rule/law he
> chooses. This show, as greatly scripted and acted as it is, shows all it=
> s
> viewers that many in government still believe that the "end justifies the
> means." That belief is a greater threat to freedom, liberty and justice
> than communism ever was, or anything else ever will be. That reasoning h=
> as
> allowed police to break down the doors of anyone they think is doing
> something wrong behind them. To use torture to get confessions when the
> cops "know" that the suspect in custody "really" committed the crime, and
> then deny in court ever having put a finger on the suspect. It has allow=
> ed
> the U.S. government to kill hundreds of sailors from across the world whe=
> n
> it mined the ports of Nicaragua in an attempt to bring down a corrupt
> government. Every national power fall victim to this belief, from the U.=
> S.
> to the U.K. to the U.S.S.R. (perhaps not Canada though). =20
>
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> >=20
> > I'm glad to read that our UK listmembers will be able to see SB again o=
> n
> tv.
> >=20
> > Something I've been thinking about lately is how personally doomed the
> > Special Section was with Burnside as its director. Over the course of 2=
> 0
> > episodes, only Mike was still standing when the dust cleared. Neil
> himself
> > mentioned how rare it was for a Sandbagger to be killed in the line of
> duty
> > until his tenure as Director began.
> >=20
> > My question is: was it worth it? Maybe we can't even judge, but to me t=
> he
> > huge waste in human lives is unforgiveable. One expects SIS to be a mor=
> e
> > dangerous career than other jobs, but good Lord, look at how all of
> > Burnside's people paid very high prices for working with him. I love SB
> but
> > the more I see it over the years the more uncomfortable I feel about
> Neil's
> > management of the section. Or maybe I'm just getting old :-)
> >=20
> > Tim
> >=20
> >=20

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